What about Baptism?

We’ve talked about baptism before. Up to now, I’ve avoided trying to nail down the particulars. Over the years I’ve been influenced by several different traditions, and I played along with whatever was the practice of the church I attended. But, having no occasion to perform any such rituals, there was no need to settle on any particular answers to common questions. I never felt it mattered how or when one performed it, only that it be done.

I’ve never encountered a better balanced examination than the one Heiser offered way back some years ago when he first began his “Naked Bible Podcast” program. In ten short audio recordings, he covers the various questions and angles without telling you where you must land. Rather, he lays out his thesis that you must start with Colossians 2:11-12 where Paul says that circumcision and baptism are roughly equivalent. Recognize that whatever we say about baptism in the New Covenant must connect to what we can say about circumcision in the Old Covenant.

I’ll link directly to his archive of audio recordings:

  1. Baptism: What You Know May Not Be So
  2. Baptism: Contradictions in Creeds Part 1
  3. Baptism: Contradictions in Creeds Part 2
  4. Baptism: Contradictions in Creeds Part 3
  5. Baptism, Circumcision, and Biblical Theology
  6. Applying the Baptism – Circumcision Theology to Adult or Believer’s Baptism
  7. The Mode of Baptism and the Biblical Text
  8. Baptism & Problem Passages: 1 Peter 3:14-22
  9. Baptism & Problem Passages: Acts 22:16
  10. Baptism & Problem Passages: Acts 2:38

You can also find them on YouTube, if you prefer, by going to this page and laboriously scrolling down until you get to the bottom showing the first ten episodes.

The bottom line is that baptism marks the entrance into the covenant community where the Word of God resides. It doesn’t solve anything except your membership; it’s just a ritual of allegiance to Christ as Lord. It still depends on your heart-led choice to follow the teaching of that community and stand in God’s favor.

So, let the elder of the community decide the particulars. I see no particular point in re-baptizing except when someone feels the need personally. For people with no church background, I prefer believer’s baptism by full immersion, if possible, but I’m flexible. I would baptize your children if you commit to teaching them the Word (i.e., homeschooling, etc.). My personal preferences are not applicable outside of my covering.

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Ghosts, Poltergeists and Nature

It’s not merely that humans are fallen. Heiser talks about the Three Rebellions of God’s elohim staff: the Fall, the great corruption through the Nephilim, and the deception and idolatry after the Tower of Babel. Humans are in a bad way, and in desperate need of redemption from the effects of all three.

Each of these Three Rebellions has put us farther and farther away from Eden and our native place in Creation. We are separated from our God’s design and our rightful condition. We live in a world that is hostile to what we have become, instead of responsive to our management. We don’t understand it fully and must fight manually for what little we get from it. And what we get isn’t worth very much because it’s tainted by sin.

Creation in general, and the natural world around us in particular, is not fallen. It is also not passive and neutral. We have taught on this blog for many years that nature is alive, sentient and willful (in a certain sense). Satan and his allies do not have any control over the natural world that is not available to us, if we choose to understand and exercise the authority God gave us in the Garden. Granted, the authority we exercise in our current condition is limited, but it’s way more than what is commonly imagined in western mythology.

Jesus lived among us in our fallen condition, but without the moral taint of the Three Rebellions. He wasn’t in His eternal form; He was constrained by our mortal condition, but manifested what we could be with redemption. He lived in the condition we could gain if we embrace His teaching. Thus, He walked on water, calmed the storms, healed the sick and delivered captives. He flatly said that we could do things like that if we follow Him. He also said that His authority would not answer our whims and curiosities and desires, but would answer to the purpose and message of His Father.

The full range of His teaching is not explicitly stated in the Gospels; the authors themselves warned of that. Rather, His teaching references a wealth of what was signaled indirectly in the Old Testament. Ultimate truth cannot be stated in dry clinical terms. It cannot be contained and circumscribed by words. Truth is not propositional; it is personal. Truth is another name for the Person of our Creator and His Son. Thus, the teaching of Jesus opens a door to the privileges we lost in the Three Rebellions.

Creation is also a Person, a manifestation of His Word. God imbued it with His own Person and character. It responds to His will. If we walk in His will, it is our best ally. It knows His will and cooperates willingly. When the Nephilim walked on this earth, they taught all of the ways of Creation’s activities, but denied the power and will of God. Creation does a lot of things simply because of its nature; it has habits and instincts. You can fail to understand the divine purpose, but still have some limited access to ways of manipulating the natural world (“magic”).

Thus, we would end up using the limited authority of the rebel elohim and the disembodied Nephilim spirits (AKA, demons). That authority is quite substantial, but it does not match that of Christ. Their authority can deceive and destroy; it cannot build. They don’t own the natural world, but they do understand it a lot better than we can with our senses.

If you enter into the Covenant of Christ, the authority available to you trumps theirs. Given our situation here in America, I warn that it requires you consciously submit to Christ as your feudal master, making Him Lord. That includes entering into a covenant community and embracing the tribal feudalism inherent in Creation itself. But the main point is that you be in a community of faith, because that’s where divine authority resides. You cannot access divine authority outside of that situation.

Do you understand that so-called ghosts and poltergeists are simply manifestations of how the natural world operates? They are not specifically demonic. They can be used to manipulate us if we don’t understand them, and that’s the point of telling you that they are normal phenomena.

When a human dies, their spirit leaves their body and this world. They do not hang around. However, the natural world may for various reasons remember their presence. In certain locations and under certain conditions you may encounter a resonance of the person manifested by the memories held within the natural world. They do this as a function of God’s divine purpose in addressing our moral situation, about His wrath and our need for redemption. This is one of the ways that Creation speaks His truth. The lingering sorrows of humans are manifested as if those humans were still present. And sometimes the physical elements may act on their own accord to seek our attention to these things (“poltergeists”). They are simply acting on their designed nature.

If you get spooked, it’s part of the same deception that caused Adam and Eve to hide from God in the Garden. They instinctively feared the wrath of God on their sins. They knew they had elements in their lives that required covering, and their covering was gone. It was gone because they surrendered to the authority of Lucifer, and he offers no covering at all. Thus, people who face these normal operations of the natural world are typically fearful of them. They can represent the wrath of God on whatever caused the sorrow that still resonates in that context.

Those things could hurt us if we are not covered. If we operate under the authority of Lucifer — the entire realm of human activity outside the Covenant — then we have no protection from the natural world. Creation is not our ally but our enemy. [Edit: Demons can also masquerade as ghosts and poltergeists, but with the Holy Spirit’s Presence, you’ll know the difference.]

The only way to escape the authority of Lucifer and his friends is to submit to the authority of the One who created all these things. The key to “miracles” in which the natural world is our ally is that we operate according to the authority and message of Christ. He said the simplest statement of His authority and message was in the command that we should love each other as He does. That means forming a covenant community.

From within that context, we are allowed to know instinctively what His will and message should be in any given context. We then can exercise one or more gifts that He grants to the community and message of the Covenant. You can live for the Covenant or you can live for the Devil; there are no other options for humans.

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NT Doctrine — 2 Peter 1

The final chapter of 1 Peter contains admonition on practical matters but no doctrine. This second letter from Peter is to the same audience a couple of years later, near the end of Nero’s reign. Things have gotten worse for the Hebrew Christians in the Roman provinces along the Black Sea coasts of Asia Minor.

By now, the Judaizers had shifted their campaign. The old Talmudic law was passe, so a new crop of charismatic proto-Gnostics was making the rounds. Their doctrine sounded new, but it was simply an excuse for even greater moral depravity. This was the birth of, “Since the flesh is irreparably fallen, let it do what it wants. It won’t affect your salvation. Just keep your head on straight.” These men lived and promoted dissolute lives. This teaching served to completely dismantle the whole concept of living in this world by the power of the Spirit over the flesh.

He offers what we could call a chain of logic beginning with his greeting, proclaiming himself a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ (personally appointed while Jesus was still alive). But his audience had the same faith that propelled Peter’s ministry, made available to them because the righteous obedience of Jesus paid the price. Peter prays they continue finding more grace and peace with God by what they were learning about the Son. This is a subtle reference to learning the painful lesson of holiness in the face of persecution.

Peter has confidence this prayer is not pointless because he is quite certain that Christ won for us a generous supply of everything His followers need to walk in this world with a strong testimony of righteousness. We are called into Christ’s inner circle of disciples, privileged to receive the inside knowledge reserved for those who were nominated to experience a revelation of His glory and greatness. That selection further inducts us into a household of great wealth promised to those who participate in His divine nature. This means we have escaped the prison of the fleshly lusts.

But it’s not enough to simply get the concept. Your commitment should empower a diligent training of your will to seek the greatness of our Lord’s name, which opens the door to the real gnosis those liars keep talking about. True gnosis yields self-discipline, which in turn brings cheerful endurance in persecution, which in turn promotes a morally clean life, brotherly affection and sacrificial love.

That we should improve in these ways makes us very fruitful in drawing closer to Christ. Notice the drift here: Christ is the personal manifestation of our Creator, and anything that resembles a deeper acquaintance with Him results in a disciplined holy conduct in the flesh. This is a very plain counter to Gnosticism.

If you can’t grasp this necessity of holiness, what’s the point of personal spiritual redemption? What happened to being cleansed of the sins of the flesh? We should be diligent to prove by our holy walk that we are the Elect of Christ. If you seek holiness by His power, the whole point is not to stumble back into the sins of the flesh. You don’t defeat the flesh by surrendering to it.

Peter’s demise is very close, but as long as he yet lives, it is his duty to remind every believer of these things. Peter also planned on leaving a body of written material that would keep preaching his message after he was gone. He never forgot the warning Jesus gave him about how He would die, and it was obvious that was coming quite soon. Yes, Peter was a firsthand eyewitness to everything he claimed about Jesus. None of his teaching was dreamed up by human speculation. Unlike the Gnostics, Peter knew what he was talking about, and it wasn’t that hard to understand.

He never forgot that day God’s voice thundered from Heaven affirming that Jesus was His Son and His delight. It was up on that mountainside where Jesus was transformed into His eternal form. The gift of prophecy the Lord gave to Peter turned out to be utterly reliable. If nothing else, his readers could trust his message like a lighthouse in a fog, until the Day of the Lord itself dawns, and they see Him face to face. Meanwhile, the voice of prophecy never comes from a prophet’s own imagination but is the voice of God.

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NAR Bigger Than We Thought

Some of you may recall I previously mentioned the New Apostlic Reformation (NAR; also this). While there is some overlap, this is not the same movement as the American Redoubt up in Idaho. The latter is not Zionist; NAR is very Zionist.

I’m not in a position to investigate these things too deeply because I can’t travel to the locations and talk to the people involved. Of course, the folks who do travel and talk to them aren’t likely to share our background. Still, it’s all we’ve got, so we take it with a grain of salt: The Army of God Comes Out of the Shadows.

It’s a long article, but I think it’s worth the reading. So, instead of blathering too much here, I’ll let you pursue it at your leisure. The key issue I hope my readers catch is the emphasis on this world, and secondly the very Americanized outlook on the Unseen Realm.

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Once More, Noah

It’s a major statement by itself for me to remind parishioners that the Code of Noah is part of any law we must obey for Kiln of the Soul. I’ve discussed it at length here before. Here is just a sample, and more recently I covered it in regards to Acts 15.

That’s enough for now. You should ask questions if you don’t quite get what it’s all about.

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No Word Magic

“But you said…”

The moment those words escape your lips, you are no longer under my spiritual covering. You would have left the community covenant. Of course, it’s not those words in themselves, but what they betray regarding your spiritual condition. When you imagine that my words are magic, that they have the power to bind me, then you are practicing the Dark Arts.

In the Kingdom of Heaven, God is not bound by His own words. Word magic was a Zoroastrian concept specifically, though it also manifested elsewhere, such as in the secularism of Hellenistic thought. For Christians, there is no useful distinction between “pagan” and “secular”. God’s words, and those of His servants, are not binding in themselves. Rather, they are merely a manifestation of the living truth of the person who uttered them. Words have no power; the power is in the person. God’s words mean nothing if the Word is not alive.

If you see a conflict between something I said and what you see me doing, then your Christian duty is to assume you misunderstood what I said, or that I am compelled to retract. Learn the distinction between your perception of my words versus who I am. Pay more attention to who I am. That’s true of God, as well. We do not form relationships with the words, but with each other as persons. Ideas are not people.

The “rule of law” concept is Satan’s idea. The rule of persons is the fundamental nature of Creation (AKA reality). You assume that the presence of any kind of power is the signature of personhood. Thus, what we have been taught to call “anthropomorphism” of natural forces is actually following Jesus, who commanded the natural elements, and those elements obeyed. This is how we are supposed to think and talk.

Surely we are flawed, but this is how God does business with His people. If you do not find a path that includes some level of submission to other humans, then you are not following God’s Path (Hebrew: torah). Every human serves some higher authority, and in practice, you must juggle the claims of multiple authorities. The mythology of free men and their human rights is straight out of Hell.

It boils down to this: I am an elder, a spiritual shepherd. I didn’t seek that role; it fell upon me. I obeyed my Master by giving vent to my convictions. Other people received my words as an expression of God’s Word, and drew closer to me. We formed a bond whereby they assumed I had some spiritual authority and we formed a community. At some point, I offered a written expression of covenant. That covenant does not bind any of us; it is merely an expression of who we are as a family. It helps to crystallize and synchronize however much of our thinking as is possible.

No matter how much I write, regardless of any supposed talent for clear expression in words, there remains a necessity of spending time talking about the implications. The personal interaction is the whole point; the written record is simply a time-saving device so that our conversations can get to the point. That’s how “church” is supposed to work. It is people interacting in real time, using resources to keep the connection alive, because God says that’s how we keep our connection with Him. He uses His servants, which includes us fallen humans, but that stretches out widely to all Creation. This is why we exist.

We use the label “Kiln of the Soul” for our community. To be a part of this requires you submit first to the Covenant of Christ, with Him as your Lord. Then, you need to communicate to me in some way that you wish to submit to my spiritual covering — me, a living person. We are all in flux here in time and space, so things might change. God’s Person is eternal (“unchanging”), but it is unavoidable that we never stop changing until we die. The root concept of mortality includes “variable”. In order to be a part of this community under our covenant, you’ll need to emphasize the personal element of connection, where it is now. You need to connect to the others, as well.

If you cannot connect to the rest of the family, then you stand outside of my primary reason for living. You are not under my covering and I cannot do very much for you. You cannot separate community and covenant. If Jesus the Messiah is the Living Word of God, then I am the living word of this covenant community, Kiln of the Soul.

Don’t like what I say? Follow your own convictions. If doing so interferes with my eldership, I’ll try to tell you. I’m just a mortal, and I have my own failings. You can tolerate them and receive my blessing, or you can move on. Some boundaries are hard and clear; a great many boundaries are by necessity soft and negotiable. At any given time, there may be some variation in what is and isn’t required for peace with each other. That’s how real families of faith operate.

I was nothing before a community formed around my ministry. I have been glad to serve and will continue serving until I die. Some day this will pass to someone else and adjustments will be made. This is Kiln of the Soul.

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Genders and Formality

So where do we start with a covenant law code for Kiln of the Soul parish?

Rather than wade through a bunch of particulars, let me pull some things together into more fundamental principles. Given our prevailing American culture, one of the first things I think we should assert is that wants us to avoid any hint of ambiguity about gender identity. This has always been a really big deal in divine revelation.

Somewhere in the balance between rejecting the fallen world and still communicating something they’ll understand, we should avoid anything that raises doubt about the sexual identity of our members. Rather assertively, women should be feminine and men should be masculine.

Instead of detailed rules, we should propose preferences. We prefer women to have long hair and wear distinctive clothing that makes it obvious this is a female. Women should in no way attempt to emulate men for any reason. Their actions and general behavior should be feminine. They don’t compete with guys doing manly things.

I’m not so worried about actual occupations, but roles in the social fabric. Yes, it would be nice if the Lord prospered our community to the point we could have stay-at-home mothers and a traditional division of labor, but I seriously doubt that’s even possible, given the coming tribulation. To be honest, I’m retired and do a lot of housekeeping, while my wife works outside the home, too young to retire yet. But no one doubts who wears the pants in the family.

Another preference is beards for men. The question of a man’s hair isn’t quite the issue some old timers might imagine. When Paul ranted about it, the issue was clearly not the hair itself, but what long hair on a man said about him in that society. The major issue was gay prostitution. Just how long is “long”? Personal style is one thing, but no one should doubt a man is a man.

On a related note, there should be no questions what the Bible says about human sexuality, and we’ve covered this repeatedly here. Again, it’s not about rules but a stated preference for one man, one woman, together for life, trying to make babies. That’s the ideal, but reality tends to intrude with a lot of messy details. Our point here should be that you recognize what you lose in covenant covering when you deviate from that standard. I’m sure whoever is the elder at hand can figure out whether any particular arrangement is a threat to leaves too many door open for Satan. Every elder should have some grasp of the limits of what they can cover in their domain.

Which brings us back to the whole point: The existence of a covenant demands a community. Most of the nitty-gritty rules depend on the community context. The bigger the community, the greater the formality required. That goes for gatherings and says something about how the community must operate in order to stay on track in general. And do I need to say it? Men must be in charge, but don’t waste a woman’s talents.

At some point it becomes necessary to split off some of the community when it gets too big for one elder to manage. Didn’t Abraham and Lot part company? Didn’t Jethro warn Moses to identify elders for groups down to about 50 each? Things got too big for just one guy to handle, and subdivision was necessary. Further, whoever becomes elder of the new group needs to come from the group. Elders are organic to the family they lead. Priests can be outsiders appointed to serve, but elders must be family. And you can still have senior elders guiding others as part of a much larger community.

But again, those aren’t rules. Those are preferences. Sometimes the situation calls for a very strong and charismatic leader over a much larger community. You’ll know when it happens. I learned long ago to put confidence in the Elect to manifest themselves by making good decisions in the Spirit. I’m one of those who is quick to delegate, because I love watching people blossom.

I’m always looking for people to take charge, encouraging them to stir up the gifts God has given them.

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Meeting on the Mountain of God

Don’t get lost in the particulars; reach for a grasp of the fundamental moral elements.

The Covenant of Christ is the one and only covenant God honors. In case it’s not obvious, the Code of Noah is simply the law portion of that covenant. Every covenant in history had a package of definitions that met the context with examples of what it looks like to keep peace with God. The real issue is your personal submission to the Lord. If you don’t have that personal connection, all the obedience you can muster will miss the point.

What is the Covenant Law of Christ? It cuts through all the crap and says that our lives on this earth are wrapped up in manifesting His commitment to His Elect. If we love as He loved, then we all consign our fleshly existence to the Cross. Instead of striving for what the flesh desires, we strive for what the Holy Spirit desires.

Stand-alone holiness has no meaning; there must be a context. The whole point of Scripture is how you deal with God and the world He created. This week’s Bible lesson in 1 Peter recalls a critical paradox: On the one hand, your commitment to Christ should be obvious and it should generate conflict with the fallen world around you. If you walk like Christ, you will make enemies among those who do not walk by His Spirit. On the other hand, His Elect will be drawn to you. Maybe not all of them, but some of them.

It’s easy to provoke hostility in this world. Our community has warned often that human nature is intractably warlike. That’s a critical element in the Fall and our mortal existence, and God has no intention of removing it from this world. The only way to end hostility is to end the flesh. War comes in the same package as breathing the air. To live as humans demands that we be prepared for conflict and learn how the Lord wants us to handle it. Much of Scripture is devoted to discussing how to do war. And a big part of that discussion is that we do not simply ignore anything we don’t like, but take the time to confer with God how to work around the idiocy of fallen humanity.

While there are any number of ways you can provoke human fallen hostility, it should always be a direct result of how you love your fellow Elect. While we may find it amusing to see fallen souls provoked by various human foibles, that sense of humor cannot justify any particular actions. Notice and laugh; there is plenty of amusement coming from the people who don’t know the Lord. However, we are not permitted to go among them and prank them for our own amusement. All of our actions must stem from a redemptive purpose.

Our Kiln of the Soul community feels the hand of God leading us to devote some time and resources to facing the coming tribulation by redoubling our efforts to express the Law of Christ in our context here and now. It’s not that our answers are definitive for anyone else anywhere else, but that they will be definitive for us. It’s time to go back up on our own Mount Sinai to receive from God a refreshing of His Covenant for the journey ahead. There are a lot of people in slavery who will need guidance for their exodus, and we need to cover the bases that others don’t.

Again, the Covenant has no meaning without community. The whole point of a covenant is building a community in feudal submission to God. Being Elect is the ultimate identity, the tribal affiliation to end all others. No other identifying factors matter. But God made it clear He expects us to gather in small communities like extended family households so that we all have our own little tribes that look different in one way or another from the next. The only unifying principle is our commitment to Him, and He is the one who demands that we proliferate into thousands of tiny nations. While that might be beneficial for the rest of the world to follow that model, it is utterly essential for His Elect.

That’s because we are not led by principles and objectives, but by people. Each of the thousands of elders and priests that God appoints among His Elect will have their own unique approach and there must be variations. Not variation for its own sake, but variations that are unavoidable due to convictions. There’s an awful lot of ink spilled in the Bible talking about how to handle those differences, and it’s a sure bet that American mainstream churches aren’t the answer for everyone. We gladly allow them to continue along their paths, but we are called to something different. They cannot possibly serve the needs of everyone God calls to His Kingdom.

For at least the next few posts, this blog will invest time looking at how we might formulate a sort of law code that manifests the Covenant in our time and place.

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NT Doctrine — 1 Peter 4

Peter ends the previous chapter with Christ in Heaven at the right hand of God. But before He ascended, He lived in the flesh, tolerating the weakness. He knew from the start that the suffering would end on the Cross. Peter encourages his readers to commit themselves to the same sense of purpose, knowing that their lives would probably end in some nasty fashion. It requires dismissing the fleshly existence, taking up a full otherworldly sense of purpose and calling. This allows you to nail your fleshly nature to the Cross and live for the glory of Christ (AKA, “the will of God”).

Prior to their coming to faith in the Messiah, these Hebrew believers as Jews served the flesh. In moral terms, there was no useful distinction between Jew and Gentile, since it was just a different flavor of serving the fleshly lusts. Now, having turned away from such a worldly life, the world around them is instinctively offended by the inherent message of holiness that condemns their sin. That judgment against them will eventually be manifest when they stand before God.

Most English translations are clumsy with verse 6. The point is that by this time in history, some of the earliest followers of Christ had died. Having received the gospel message while they were still alive, they agreed with the wrath of God against fallen flesh and judged their own flesh as worthy of death. Because they were in a position to reject the fleshly nature, they chose to walk in the Holy Spirit, by Whom their own spirits were given eternal life.

Peter offers a Hebrew expression in Greek about “the end is near” in the sense that, once you have declared your allegiance to God and sided with Him in judging fallen flesh, you are never more than a step away from Eternity. Being aware of this should make you joyful, for sure, but not in the sense of mindless revelry. Rather, you’ll never lose the sense of doom on the flesh, and you’ll be constantly praying for guidance and power.

With such a mindset, you realize you can’t afford to waste a single moment focusing on your fleshly self. Instead, you’ll make the most of the remaining days in loving each other as Christ loved. This is the best way to put our human weaknesses in context and forgive. Indeed, be rather indulgent with each other, as fellow believers are our only real treasure on earth. Each one is a jewel of God’s provision, granted for the blessings of His Covenant people. Everything we do should serve the divine calling of Christ’s Law. This is how we glorify the Lord we serve.

Don’t be surprised when your fleshly self is abused to see if you really are committed to Christ. Your flesh is not the real you; rejoice that the Enemy can tell you belong to Christ and feels it worth his time to provoke persecution through his human lackeys. What a privilege it is to be treated as our Savior!

During times of tribulation, the Lord comes to sift first His own people. This is what we pray when we call on Him to judge sin: “Lord, start with me!” But then He turns to deal with those who rejected Him; what will it be like for them? If we come through these times of trial stripped bare of our human failings, what will it be like for those who have nothing else but human failings? This knowledge should drive you into the arms of the Lord whenever life gets difficult.

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Same Old Lies from the Same Old Liars

Just so you’ll have the facts: The COVID lies rode largely on the stalking horse of supposed clinical testing. It was the PCR, which was designed to detect DNA, not viruses. The inventor said as much, quite loudly. It’s the wrong tool for the job. The reason TPTB keep pushing the abuse of the PCR test is so they can continue lying. They knew it was a lie the first time they pushed it under COVID, and they know it’s still a lie now that they are pushing H5N1 Bird Flu. The false PCR test results are what they use to detect the presence of Bird Flu.

Oh, and just for good measure: That noise about unknown drones hovering over critical facilities, etc.? The federal agencies that kept saying, “There’s nothing to worry about” are agencies that know darned well what it’s all about. The reason they don’t talk about it is because they know what they are doing is either illegal or morally wrong. They are hiding something that would and should get them in trouble.

Your government hates you.

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