Going Down to a High Place

Ref: Naked Bible 110: Q&A 15

One of the questions addressed in this podcast episode is worth our attention. It addresses the narrative in 2 Kings 2:23-24 where Elisha encounters some boys who insult him and, after he curses them, they are mauled by bears. If you are interested in the scholarly footnotes, you can listen to the podcast or download the transcript here.

The first thing we run into is the perplexing statement that Elisha “goes down” from Gilgal to Bethel. This follows the scene where Elijah and Elisha cross the Jordan, in which the elder prophet slaps the water with his cloak and the river stops flowing. They cross on the dry bed. Elijah then is taken up alive in a flaming chariot, dropping his cloak in the process. Elisha comes back across the Jordan and performs the same miracle using Elijah’s cloak to stop the flow again.

The location is very near the rebuilt Jericho. The campsite Israel used during their initial act of conquest just north of the city mound is called Gilgal. It is from here that Elisha starts a long hike up the wadi toward Bethel, the route used when Joshua leads the attacks on Ai. This is the notorious site of the paganized shrine Jeroboam built to prevent the population of the Northern Kingdom going back down to worship at Jerusalem.

The shrine featured a golden calf, hearkening back to the sin of Israel at the foot of Mount Sinai. They referred to that idol as the visible mount ridden by the invisible Jehovah. Jeroboam did the same thing, referring to the shrine as a temple of Jehovah recast in the image of Baal. Nonetheless, when someone faithful to the Law of Moses, such as Elijah and Elisha, used the name “Jehovah” everyone knew the difference. Tone of voice and sarcasm worked in Hebrew same as English.

The shrine at Bethel also featured idols for other deities, so the whole place was regarded as filthy. Bethel stood atop a high hill just west of the central ridge highway running from Jerusalem northward into Samaria. It was literally and figuratively a “high place” in the sense of the pagan shrine. If Elisha was faithful to the true God of Israel, then the author of our biblical text could not resist referring to this long climb as “going down” because it led to a place of shameful defilement.

Once again, it’s standard Hebrew symbolism with a big dose of sarcasm. This was not a reference to literal geography, but spiritual geography. It wouldn’t matter where you started, anytime you headed toward Bethel you were “going down” to a filthy pagan shrine, a node of deep spiritual darkness staining the ground of the Promised Land. It is polemical, even propaganda, if you will, but coming from the Jehovah’s side of things.

This contrasts with the common reference of idolaters “going up” to Bethel’s shrine to worship. We have two competing systems of religion at work here. This shows up throughout the narrative running from Deuteronomy through 2 Kings. That whole section of the Bible seems to have been produced in its final form by the same bunch of editors who were thoroughly nationalist in favor of David’s dynasty and the Law of Moses. Elijah is a mirror image of Moses, while Elisha is like Joshua. Thus, the narratives of these books are filled with this sort of symbolic reference.

Now, the reference to boys means literally kiddos under 12. However, it is also used figuratively of any male who is not yet married and head of his own household. In particular, the term is used for royal or noble sons who are still residing in his father’s home. That word was used to label David at the battle with Goliath. He was not a kid, but a young adult with few opportunities to distinguish himself as the youngest of eight brothers. The term also referred to Rehoboam’s youthful noble advisors, his peers when he first took the throne.

These fellows who confronted Elisha on the wadi road were most likely associated with the royal household of the Northern Kingdom, perhaps including priestly sons, as well. Who would be surprised if such a gang was quite partisan in favor of the royal household? The ideological zeal of young men up through age 30 is still a trope today that shows up in books, TV and movie shows.

Notice that they number 42, the same body count we get from Jehu’s slaughter of the royal sons of the House of Omri a few chapters later in the same narrative. The symbolism of the number is related to any very dark time. Thus, it’s the number of months in a time of tribulation (3.5 years). This incident with Elisha is portrayed like a divine decree.

Calling Elisha “baldy” is the mocking contrast to the hairy Elijah, his teacher. One was fuzzy and the other baldy, but both were notorious for harassing the ruling clans of the Northern Kingdom. Both were worthy of ridicule. This was the whole point of these young men. It’s the polar opposite of Elisha’s reception with the Sons of the Prophets down in Jericho earlier.

Also, in typical Hebrew fashion, demanding twice that Elisha “go up” and join himself to the royal cult is an expression of emphasis. The concept of doubling something in Hebrew language often signals such. The divine response was that two bears carried out the punishment, an emphatic statement from God that these boys were way out of line.

Technically speaking, because the bears performed this slaughter at the word of Elisha, he could be held accountable for murder. And it wasn’t just any young men, but a substantial portion of the ruling clans of the Northern Kingdom. Elisha is just God’s first attack aiming to dismantle the Omride Dynasty. It’s not a random act of Elisha getting angry.

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Obeying the Law of Christ

Following Christ is not just a religion.

We have long noted that Judaism is also not just a religion. Recently we were reminded of this in the words of Sarah Hurwitz. At a meeting of Jewish Federations of North America General Assembly, she said: “We’re a nation. Civilization. Tribe. Peoplehood. But most of all we’re a family.”

If you bothered to understand Islam, you’d find it’s the same thing. To be a Muslim is to embrace a whole identity. It’s not just a religion but a way of life that changes your entire human existence. This is a major complaint westerners have with both Judaism and Islam, that these people refuse to assimilate.

Yet, this is precisely what following Christ is supposed to be. We should totally dis-assimiliate from the society around us in every way.

Western Civilization is notorious for compartmentalization of the human soul. There’s politics, economics, science, education, business, entertainment, etc. All of these are supposed to be handled as separate subjects of study, and that includes your faith. Each has its own rules and boundaries, and you shouldn’t confuse them in your decisions.

This is why so few western Christians are actually following Christ. Jesus stated flatly that following Him wasn’t the most important thing — it was the only thing. Once you submit to Him as Lord, He owns every particle of your being. Granted, He taught that it could take the rest of your life bringing the various parts of yourself under His authority, but that was the goal.

White people in particular are very bad at this. The fundamental law of following Christ is making your fellow Christians a tribe, your brothers and sisters. We excel at the rhetoric, but utterly fail at the execution. When was the last time you went to the home of someone in your church and shared a meal? When was the last time you went with them to any event outside of the church house? The Christian ideal in the New Testament was living in each other’s armpits.

If you spend every waking hour in the company of your covenant community, it should still feel like it’s not enough time together. We should all long for the time we could share a single residence, day and night. That’s what tribalism means, and it’s a natural feature of biblical covenant faith. It’s behind the meaning of what Christ said to His disciples at the Last Seder: “Love each other as I have loved you.”

Have we forgotten this refers to the way they spent the previous three years following Him around? They walked together, ate together and stayed in the same quarters wherever Jesus wandered. He tolerated their foibles and petty disputes and still wanted them with Him.

We aren’t obeying the Law of Christ very well.

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Alliance with Hell

We are obliged to do what we can to learn the Hebrew outlook in reading the Bible. While there is plenty of Scripture that remains a matter of debate, some things are quite clear.

The Law of Moses mentions Gentiles living among the people of Israel. We know that the nation of Israel was an eastern feudal-tribal society. Given that, what would be required of these Gentiles? The record is clear: They adhered to the Law of Noah. These Gentiles were feudal dependents, tolerated on the grounds that they agreed to live by the Code of Noah.

This also applied to any group of people who surrendered in battle. Once they laid down their weapons, they were subjected to the Code of Noah as terms of surrender. Thus, we have several tribes living under King David — Jebusites, for example — whose property rights were guarded by the king. David paid a hefty cash sum to the Jebusite Arauna/Ornan for a threshing floor on the ridge above what was then David’s fortress. It was later the site of the Temple.

Further, King David had no trouble feeding a starving Egyptian slave left behind by a fleeing enemy. This slave was treated well simply on the basis of a provisional surrender. He was hardly a threat, and wholly without inclination to cause David any trouble (1 Samuel 30:7-17).

The difference between Moses and Noah made these observant Gentiles second-class residents. They were not granted all same privileges. Nonetheless, in regard to general treatment, Israelis were required to treat these observant Gentiles with a measure of respect as allies. This is reflected in Leviticus 19, among other passages.

It’s a general discussion of what is necessary to keep peace with Jehovah. This passage seeks to instill a sense of honor and high social trust. When you get to verses 33 and following, you can read a very blunt requirement that observant Gentiles be included in this social structure. Don’t harass them; don’t treat them as captive enemies.

It’s a fundamental principle of divine revelation: We are supposed to seek peaceful coexistence. There are plenty of people who are threats, and the Bible is loaded with rules on handling them. But it shouldn’t require a lot of complicated instructions for someone who is not your enemy.

When Palestinian women, children and old people surrender and queue up at feeding sites, they are not Israel’s enemies. There is no excuse for what the IDF is doing today in Gaza.

As a part of the narrative interview with an America military retiree who worked in Gaza, the man recounted an order from the on-site IDF commander for snipers to shoot children who had been placed atop a wall to keep them from getting crushed by the desperate crowd jostling in line for food. This was consistent with the obvious design of the whole program to lure starving Gazans to the feeding sites precisely so they could be slaughtered.

The US government claims Israel as an ally. Given that Israel is so clearly defying God and serving Satan, does that make the US allies with Hell?

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Like All the Rest

So, you’ve noticed the political turmoil in the US. The only thing certain is that it will get worse. In the wider Radix Fidem community, we tend to agree that God is not tipping His hand on the specifics. That’s because they don’t matter, in the sense that none of them points to any key issues of faith and morals. All of them together are simply the death knell of the American Empire.

We can see certain things clearly.

  1. The tariffs: Whether or not they were good policy was never the point. Trump didn’t sell it to the public. He is not a good teacher; he should have appointed someone who is a good lecturer to go on national TV and explain how a temporary economic decline could eventually improve our lives. He should have used the power of Presidential privilege for public address. Never trust the news services to get your message across when they are hostile in the first place.
  2. ICE thuggery: The majority has no complaint with trying to reverse the invasion of recent years, but the quick-n-dirty methods of ICE are simply unacceptable brutality, not to mention too little too late.
  3. The Epstein Files cover-up: Trump promised to release them, then waffled. It appears he is implicated in some way.
  4. Bombing Venezuelan boats: There is no valid reason for this, nor the aggression against the country.
  5. Sucking up to Netanyahu: Brazen genocide does not sit well with most people.
  6. Needlessly alienating his strongest supporters, people who have the public’s attention.

Hopefully folks can see Trump is not God’s chosen to save America, but to destroy it. He is handling these crises very poorly, which strengthens his opposition. Then again, the rising leftist response in some quarters does not signal an organized threat to him, but a threat to us little people. I’m not referring to how bad leftist policies can be, but the polarization of the public at large. At the same time the system is fracturing, we are ever more tightly bound to it.

This will not be your typical swing back and forth between two partisan poles. The national majority still prefer Trump, but his performance is collapsing. This is not a TV show where he controls all the conditions along with what is broadcast. There is no cutting room for this spectacle; it’s streaming live.

There are plenty of things Trump has unleashed that he cannot control. The forcible conversion from dollars to a central banking digital currency (CBDC) is now unavoidable, and it will be linked to some form of social credit score that Trump will not be allowed to control. The wealth gap will widen and harden between the haves and have-nots. A growing portion of the have-nots will be driven into crime, simply because it’s less painful than playing along with the system. For decades the US population was lulled to sleep by the generous provision of hedonistic comfort, but that’s going away.

You could probably see all of this using mere human reason. But the problem is that reason tends to leave you open to futile hopes that this can all be fixed. Intellect is tempted to isolate the individual problems, trying to address each one, without seeing the pattern. Moral conviction would lead you to realize that this is the end of the empire.

It will not be a clean end, as if poetic justice could be read in this disaster. It was born of a human rejection of God’s Word and it will end the same. The Devil and his allies are not interested in making sense to us. They have had a free hand in things. This empire was their enterprise from start to finish, and their preference is always mass deception that ends in human destruction. The only way to understand is from outside their system.

Aside from setting certain boundaries, God’s part in the American Empire has been to call His people out of it. Unless you depart and give your whole allegiance to Christ and His Invisible Kingdom, you will be drawn into the madness of the collapse. America doesn’t matter; it’s just a blip on the eternal outlook. No, this is not uniquely historic among human empires, much less does Christ have any little slice of it. That’s why there is no prophecy about this empire except that it’s just another human failure under the leadership of Satan.

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The Days of Noah

Let’s review the Three Rebellions: The Fall in the Garden, the descent of the Watchers, and the rise of idolatry after the Tower of Babel. The Fall brought mortality; that’s what the Fall and the symbol of Adam is all about. Depravity came later as the result of the Watchers. Idolatry was not the problem in the days of Noah; it was moral depravity as taught by the Watchers and the Nephilim.

Keep in mind that there is no Greek word for God’s staff, the elohim. In the Septuagint the elohim were lumped in with the angels, so the Apostles used that terminology in their Greek writings. Thus, in 1 Corinthians 11:10, Paul refers to “angels” as the background issue regarding hair and coverings, but it’s really about the Watchers.

From Genesis 6 we get the basic story of how the Watchers came into the picture, and in the 1 Enoch, along with Second Temple commentaries, we get the picture that the Watchers sent out their progeny, the Nephilim, to lead humans into depravity. Among all the things mentioned in the Jewish legends, which may or may not be true, a major element in the Watchers’ teaching is answered in Paul’s warning here in 1 Corinthians 11.

The basic problem is that Paul is emphasizing the moral necessity of male headship at home and in the faith community as a whole. In the common understanding of their day, this was connected with women having long hair and men having it short. It also included women covering their heads in public (generally scarves and veils) and men not wearing head coverings (hats, helmets, etc.). This rule held in any worship service that was open to the public. Whether or not we decide that this applies to us today in our world is not the point. The point is the spiritual and moral covering that hair and hats represented in their day.

The divine order of things in this world requires that all females submit to at least one male as her moral authority. It can be a father, husband, brother, uncle or any other male person who takes moral responsibility for the female in question. The covering of the pastor/elder is not the point, unless she resides in their home as a dependent. She must report to a household male somewhere.

Our western culture loads this concept with crap that does not come from the Bible, and leaves out some critical stuff that does. That’s a whole study in itself.

In our world today we have to give thought to various alternative ways of obeying this because the whole idea is blatantly illegal in the West. Still, the principle of spiritual covering still applies to those who claim Christ as Lord. It remains to this day a critical boundary line that can keep your life out of the hands of the Nephilim spirits today. You should be able to see clearly how the rebel alliance, both in Heaven and in the Abyss, has worked hard to destroy this way of living.

It’s not just the practical issues humans can reasonably understand from feminine emancipation. Anyone with a brain can see how the birth and raising of children is almost destroyed just from the mechanics of human social structure when women are declared legally and socially “equal” to men. However, there is a very destructive spiritual loss that is not visible to human logic. Every nasty thing the Watchers set loose on humanity is enabled by this wicked thing. It is a wedge, a lever, a doorway for Nephilim spirits to come and go in the individual soul and all their familial and social connections. It places you inside the Devil’s realm.

Thus, whenever Jesus mentions “in the days of Noah” He is referring to the depravity of humans doing anything they pleased with zero moral restraint. That’s what happened before the Flood. It’s what made Noah mourn and plead with God to rescue him from that depravity. It’s the corruption and perversion of everything God had revealed as the proper way for humans to live during their time as mortals. Female emancipation is part of this tragic image.

We aren’t seeking to roll things back to the bad old days of western patriarchy. That was evil in its own right. We are looking at the biblical shepherd headship. A man’s greatest treasure is his wife, so he needs to choose carefully who fills that role.

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Languages of the Bible and in the Bible

In order to handle one particular Bible passage, we need a wealth of background explanation. All the more do we need it because we need to clobber some false notions common in our day.

Abraham was referred to in Scripture as “Aramaen”. We need to understand that this was not precisely an ethnic identity, but simply noting that he spoke the Aramaic language. He probably was literate in other languages, to include Akkadian and Sumerian. Those were both Semitic tongues. Sumerian was one of the oldest known written languages, eventually replaced in daily use by Akkadian, while Sumerian remained a formal ceremonial language. Akkadian was replaced in turn by Aramaic because the latter was far more easily written on what were then modern materials. It was no longer restricted to poking a stick into clay tablets, but could be written in a script on scrolls or papyrus. Aramaic became the most common language used in commerce and routine record keeping.

Because of Abraham’s rather high social status, it’s quite likely he was familiar with other languages not related to any Semitic tongues. For the upper classes in Mesopotamia, it was the rule to be conversant in the languages you were likely to encounter. For the middle classes, it was only a little less so necessary. For the lower classes, it was likely they were at least familiar with several languages, depending on their exposure.

Apparently Abraham used Aramaic at home, but would have taught his descendants all the languages he knew they would likely encounter. Given that Palestine in those days was just a highway between Egypt and Mesopotamia (and beyond), we should expect the Patriarchs to be multi-lingual based on the dominant caravan traffic of the day. In turn, it was quite likely caravans always included people who spoke Aramaic simply because it was in those days the language of trade to the point Egyptians would be familiar with it.

It turns out that most of the Canaanite nations also used a variation of Aramaic that remained mutually intelligible. No one should be surprised that the Patriarchs drifted closer to Canaanite languages in their daily usage. During the sojourn in Egypt that drift would have stopped for a few centuries. After the Conquest, since it was only partial, the drift would have returned. This is when the classical Hebrew language was established. By the time of the Babylonian invasion, the difference between what was by then the Hebrew language and the old Aramaic would have been substantial. Still, keep in mind that the upper and middle classes would still be able to converse in Aramaic for the sake of trade and imperial correspondence. We note that Nebuchadnezzar’s officials also knew the Hebrew dialect well enough to parley with troops on the walls of Jerusalem.

During the Exile, the common language of the Judeans in Mesopotamia drifted back to Aramaic as it was at the time there in Babylon. The small group who returned had some struggle with reading the old Hebrew Scriptures because it was a little different. The upper classes knew the old Hebrew, and some of the middle classes would have, but the lower classes were quite unlikely to know it well enough. Thus, in public readings of the Hebrew Scriptures, they had people stand around offering a targum (rough translation) for the lower classes.

So it went with each imperial conquest. The conquering officials would be familiar with Aramaic because, who wasn’t? But in order to curry favor, the Judean leadership would learn their rulers’ languages as much as possible. Learning Persian was tough, but Alexander was very friendly and evangelistic about teaching everyone Greek. When the Romans took over what was left of the Greek Empire, they played things a little differently. Seizing upon the convenience of the existing ubiquity of Greek language everywhere they went, they reserved Roman for their official correspondence and communicated in Greek with all their subjects.

By this time we had one existing center of Hellenistic culture in Alexandria, Egypt. The Old Testament was translated into a rather clean scholarly Greek, which we refer to as the Septuagint (“LXX”). The majority of upper and middle class Jews knew how to read it. Rabbis in particular would have been able to read it, along with their own old Hebrew, and of course the common Aramaic of their own people.

There’s no reason to doubt that Jesus passed through at least some rabbinical training, because He was treated as a recognized rabbi. There is evidence that one did not get that title easily, yet it was used of Him in terms that were not entirely sarcastic. We should assume He could read and converse in Greek and Old Hebrew, but in most cases, would have used Aramaic in His preaching and teaching. Whoever among His disciples was in business would also have been equally able in Greek. Since many of them appeared interested in religion (some were disciples of John the Baptist at first), they would have taken the time to study Old Hebrew, too.

Savor that for a moment. The populations of the Ancient Near East were multilingual as a rule because that’s how people survived. Only the lowest classes off the beaten path could afford to deal with only their local tongue.

For all our scholarship today, we are still uncertain about some things, including Greek usage from those days.

In Matthew 18, Jesus teaches quite a bit about forgiveness. Please note: He is talking about forgiving those who share the same covenant. This does not apply fully to folks outside the Covenant, but to your fellow believers. His teaching assumes you know how to draw the boundaries of the Covenant, but give people the benefit of the doubt until they make it obvious they aren’t covenant family. How do we keep His fundamental law of loving our brothers and sisters as He does?

Matthew records His cousin’s conversation in Greek. Peter asked a lot of questions, since he had been a disciple of John the Baptist for at least a couple of years and was familiar with the rabbinical debates John had with the Pharisees. He was also the eldest of the Twelve, the presumed “second in command”.

Having heard the Pharisees suggest that you should forgive your fellow Hebrew three times on any particular sin against you, Peter was trying to be generous in suggesting seven times (v. 21). This was, after all, the sacred number of completion (i.e., the full number) in Hebrew culture. After that, you could then take some kind of revenge.

The subject of revenge was rooted deep in Hebrew history, all the way back to Genesis 4:24 and Lamech’s vow to take vengeance. The number is distinct in the Hebrew texts we have: 77 times. Jesus was referring to this when He told Peter that seven wasn’t enough. The problem is how His answer is translated.

Jesus quotes the Septuagint, obviously, but these days we aren’t quite certain how the numbers in Greek work with the addition of a suffix that translates into English as “times” or “-fold”. We don’t have enough Greek materials that demonstrate clearly how one would say in Greek “77-fold” versus “70 times 7”. It’s a question of actual usage of suffixes. Lately, scholars are thinking it should have been translated “77-fold” because that’s what Lamech said.

Not that it makes a whole lot of difference in moral terms. It’s one thing to casually remember someone making the same mistake three times, maybe even seven times. But if you keep counting up to 77 times, you aren’t forgiving in the first place, much less 490 times. Jesus was plainly trying to reverse Lamech’s vow of vengeance with a vow of forgiveness, so if you want to nit-pick, it should be 77.

(Note: Hesier misses some of this in his attempt to cover this in Naked Bible 105: Q&A 13.)

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God Demands Mysticism

Let me bring to your attention the excellent comment posted by Jackabond:

There’s a great deal of scaffolding in the established Church, such as Christology, that has been erected around Christian beliefs that aren’t consistent with a spiritual or mystical reading of Scripture. These are clearly in reaction to various heresies in the early Church that the modern Church still clings to, probably out of fear of those heresies creeping back in. This scaffolding is often just the Hellenistic mind trying to make sense of something that was given in more mystical and symbolic terms. Sadly, the scaffolding has become a rigid structure in the established Church that often stands in the way of spiritual growth.

This is precisely the problem with most historical church doctrine and theology, regardless of the branch or denominational legacy. It was all based on human attempts to nail down something that exceeds human intellect. This in turn is simply the flesh trying to evade capture and the utter necessity of feudal submission to Christ as Lord.

If human reason can capture something in a proposition, then the demands of God can be subjected to fleshly desire. That’s the whole point. It won’t matter if you leave it as a paradox of Christ as both God and man. The obsession with locking in the words and thoughts on a human level denies the power of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not operate directly in mind, but in the spirit, which in turn speaks to your heart, not your head. Your brain is not the essence of what makes you “in His image”. It is your spirit, something indefinable in words.

The only valid question here is not what Christ is, but who. There’s no what or why until you have answered who and whom. You can bet the early Apostles did not tolerate such intellectual speculation. Just a quick reading of their comments and letters will make that obvious. Paul railed against semantic wrangling because words cannot capture the essence of God or anything that belongs to the Spirit Realm (AKA the Unseen Realm).

Have you not noticed that the Hebrew language is only nouns and verbs? Abstractions don’t exist in Hebrew. That language developed in a world where the human intellect was understood as limited, so that the only way you could address spiritual matters was to employ symbols and parables (AKA parabolic language). The whole point was to discern what God requires of you in a given context in this world. Across the entire Ancient Near East, it would have been gross arrogance and blasphemy to declare spiritual things in concrete terms. This is the paradox of biblical mysticism: It is intensely practical because it doesn’t dabble in things above human ken.

The Doctrine of the Trinity is Hellenism, a rejection of the Hebrew mystical approach to spiritual matters. Scripture itself avoids any attempt to nail down in words any specifics in how the three labels — Father, Son and Holy Spirit — relate or anything you can state in propositions. It’s all left as a mystery beyond explanation. Your job is not to parse the essence, but to obey Him.

Thus, the Apostles kept heresies at bay by pointing this out. Their reply would have been, “You are asking the wrong question. It’s a question only the flesh wants to know.” And the flesh wants to know so it can evade moral discipline. The only answer you need is to recognize Jesus as your sovereign Lord. Because your heart has the ability, you are obliged to submit and commit to Him, even without Election. That much is built into the nature of how the heart works, and the heart is supposed to lead the head. The brain, along with the rest of the flesh, must be crucified on the Cross and forced to live in submission. It is not pampered and allowed to reign.

Note: One of the greatest heresies of all Church History is the notion that the intellect is not part of the flesh, not fallen, and therefore perfectible.

We don’t need a scaffold. We are not obliged to answer the millions of fleshly concerns, which includes intellectual queries. All you need to understand is your role in Christ’s Kingdom. You need to understand that no matter how brilliant and talented you may be, God does not speak through those fleshly capabilities. He can use them for His glory if they are enslaved to faith, but they must never, ever be allowed to take the lead. The Bible says they are tainted by the fall and fleshly appetites; like fire they must be contained in order to be useful.

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False Advertising

It’s a personal hobby horse: I’d rather be brutally honest and let things fall where they may than to ever be guilty of deception. I found a decent explanation of how a great many modern church organizations are attempting to sucker people in by hiding their affiliations behind the false front of “non-denominational” —

Notice how the fellow in the video explains that asking about denomination is more about the doctrinal pattern than organizational linkage. People who have studied doctrine are concerned with what they’ll have to face. I’ve heard pastors discuss this in my hearing. While they don’t use honest language; what most of them are trying to do is sucker people in with programming and community before they reveal their doctrinal peculiarities. They want to make it feel like a lost investment if you find out later they teach something contrary to your convictions. They want bodies, budgets and buildings, not souls.

So I’ve been upfront about Radix Fidem community, always trying to answer queries as honestly as I can. I’ve also been open about our particular community of Kiln of the Soul. Radix Fidem functions the same as a denominational affiliation; it’s a much broader identity based on seven items we discuss in [the booklet]. Kiln of the Soul is a single church-in-effect.

So, for example, Radix Fidem doesn’t promote any particular doctrines. You can plaster the logo on your website if you like, but you’ll be adopting our approach to religion. In other words, it’s a way of building a religious identity, but only just barely qualifies for a religious identity in itself. You can embrace Radix Fidem and have female leadership, for example.

You cannot do that in Kiln of the Soul (at least, not while I’m alive). A part of the Radix Fidem mystical approach is that any particular member body is whatever the senior elder decides. It’s tribal/feudal, while Radix Fidem is collegial. Folks joining our virtual church don’t have to agree to what I promote as doctrine, but they are obliged to humor me as long as I’m the elder.

Another example: Kiln of the Soul is annihilationist. I teach that the Lake of Fire is a symbol of annihilation, not an extension of Hell. The Devil, his elohim allies, the Watchers, the Nephilim and folks who aren’t Elect will sit in Hell until Judgment Day, and then together be obliterated.

Nobody in the community has to buy that, but they do have to accept that this is what I teach. And there are plenty of things I choose not to define. For example, do sinners go to Hell because they sin or do they sin because they are damned, non-elect? The Bible says both, so it doesn’t matter. Do animals go to Heaven? That’s a silly question, presuming a western concept of Heaven as a place with specific entrance requirements one must meet. The Bible says no one is good enough to merit Heaven.

An awful lot of common theology and doctrine is rooted in a western orientation, not the Hebrew mystical orientation of the Bible. Church leaders have sought for 2000 years to define things that no Hebrew mind would have bothered to ask. Thus, neither Radix Fidem nor Kiln of the Soul has a Christology, because the whole field of study misses the point.

Go ahead, ask any question you dare.

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Because of the Clause

Re: Genesis 1:1-3

Feel free to visit the video on YouTube because it is slow and careful, designed to address those who have never encountered the idea that most English translations get this passage wrong. It has to do with recognizing in Hebrew the difference between a dependent and independent clause.

A dependent clause is incomplete, indicating that something more is coming. An independent clause is what we would call a “sentence” because it is a complete thought that stands on its own. Genesis 1:1, 2 and 3 in Hebrew grammar are dependent clauses, not sentences.

We understand that ancient Hebrew was written without vowels and you were supposed to simply know which vowels should be read into the text. The difference between the common reading and the correct reading is the difference in one vowel. When the vowel script was finally developed in about 800 AD, the scribes who kept the Hebrew OT manuscripts started adding them. Thus, the Dead Sea scrolls don’t show vowels because they are older than the vowel script system. Every collection of manuscripts we still have today presents a different reading than is indicated in common English translations.

Thus, the text of Genesis 1:1-3 should read:

When God began to create the heavens and the earth — now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters — then God said, “let there be light”, and there was light.

This is strict Hebrew syntax. It is not a chronological order for verses 1, 2 and 3. It is not the earth in a formless state because of God’s action in verse 1. And verse 3 does not sequentially follow verse 2. Rather, verse 2 describes the situation for God to begin His work in verse 3. In other words, something already existed when light was called forth.

Hellenized minds ask, “Where did that pre-existing matter come from?” Hebrew minds would never ask that question; it was of no interest to them. The term “created” (Hebrew bara) does not necessarily mean ex nihilo (from nothing). You might associate that meaning based on some grammatical contexts, but it is clearly not so in this case.

Genesis 1:26-27 also features the Hebrew word bara. Was it from nothing? Obviously not; the Lord formed mankind from dust (Genesis 2:7). Further, we find in Exodus 20:11 where God made things in six days, using a different Hebrew word for “made” (asa).

Nor can we deduce from Hebrew syntax that it was seven 24-hour days based on the word for “day” (yom). In Genesis 2:4 we have yom mentioned: “in the day the Lord God made the heavens and the earth”. Did He get it done all in one day? Chasing down the meaning of yom will show you that it most often means “daylight”. Putting it with a number value does not make any difference. Laban pursued Jacob over seven periods of daylight, not day and night/24 hours for a whole week.

We need to recognize that the Hebrew text of Genesis is more about a competing claim against the broad ANE literature about pagan deities than it was trying to nail down Hellenized questions. Imposing a scientific meaning on a doctrinal statement is about as bogus as it gets. The issue is not how God generated matter from scratch, but how He shaped the world as we experience it, and more to the point, our duty to Him as Creator.

Read Genesis 1 as God giving shape to something He already had. A sequence is not possible because the story is told from an eternal viewpoint, where space and time are both adjustable variables.

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Scripture and Plausible Deniability

Re: Naked Bible 104: How We Got the Old Testament

If there is one partisan difference you can point to the defines the separation point between fundamentalists and conservatives on the Bible, this podcast will do it. Coming from someone who was once a fundy, I assure that it boils down to magical thinking versus scholarship.

We do not have a single autograph (the technical term for an original document penned by the hand of the author). There are no “originals” out there. The notion that we can come reasonably close is also magical thinking, because it’s quite clear that there will always be passages that remain in doubt.

This is where the principle of Plausible Deniability comes into play: It is utterly impossible to nail down any material proof for God and His claims in this world. At some point, the whole thing stands on faith and conviction. Either the Lord secures the truth for you by His divine Presence, or you simply must guess. Those who lack the Holy Spirit can deny anything they like because there is no ironclad proof.

This is also true with every miracle; there has always been a rational explanation for everything in the Bible if you don’t believe. It’s true of every miracle for first-hand witnesses, too. That we cannot genuinely have a verified original text of the Bible is part of this. God will not back humans into a corner until it’s too late. Even when someone rose up to offer irrefutable logical proof of the Bible and what it claims, when Josh McDowell won his debates, it did not have the power to change people who were involved in the debate.

So the answer is: Pick an English translation that works for you, one that brings peace to your heart. Of, if you are willing to do the work, waffle between several the way I do. The physical artifact of the Bible is not the source of our faith; it’s God Himself. It’s the mystical communion of you and Christ living in your soul.

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